PayPay Fraud? – Debit Card Account Verification Information

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BE WARNED BEFORE USING PAYPAY.COM !!!

Within 24 hours of “verifying” a new PayPay account with my bank debit card, I had the following attempted purchases:

SCI*SEPHORA.COM -$1.00
WAL-MART -$40.00
BUYPAYMENTS.COM 866840 -$1.00
SCI*SEPHORA.COM -$1.00
WAL-MART -$1,035.40

I am an international traveler, never let my card out of my sight and am very protective of my banking information when shopping.  It would appear that there is either a weak link in the PayPay data storage system or PayPay is itself a completely fraudulent service.  I would like to think that this was a singular incident of data loss or a security breach, but since PayPay has not responded to my email, I can only assume that they are not interested in helping me further understand this situation.

Luckily, I have a great bank in Washington Mutual and these “charges” don’t present me with any real problems, but I encourage anyone considering using PayPay as a way to avoid the customer-unfriendly rip-off that is PayPal to stay away… far far far away.

UPDATE:  There is also a charge for MC-SAMS INTERNET 888-746-7726 (Sam’s Club) -$40.00

FURTHER UPDATE:  BuyPayments.com appears to be the credit card processor for PayPay.  Or not.  Noone seems to want to respond with information.  Here’s the scam. Whoever got my debit card info from wherever they got it purchased a Sam’s Club Online Membership for $40 and a computer for $1035.  They also tried to purchase something from Sephora.  Both Sam’s and Sephora contacted me to verify the purchases before they were processed for shipment.  All charges were cancelled and this thief didn’t get his merchandise.   I would imagine enough slips through the system, though, for people like this to make a lot of money.

Anyone else had a problem with Paypay?  Any details you want to share?

{ 36 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Michael March 2, 2012 at 9:32 pm

PAYPAY is a rip off company. Xavier Roy is noting but a lier and a rip off artis. Talk about skum of the earth you can’t get any lower. BEWARE OF HIM AND HIS SON CHARLES AS THEY WILL TELL YOU ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HEAR. THE TRY TO BLAME IN ON THE OTHER PARTNER BUT IT IS THEM THAT ARE RUNNING THE COMPANY. I ALSO FOUND OUT THAT XAVIER AND HIS SON AT NOT LOCATED IN NEW YORK BUT IN LOS ANGELES, CA. THEIR OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 22148 SHERMAN WAY SUITE 211 IN I BELEIVE IT TO BE CANOGA PARK.

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2 Cheryl DeYoung February 15, 2012 at 6:53 am

I have a charge on my Sears MasterCard in January 2011 for $$731.06 that says:
Sams Internet 888.xxx.xxxx AR
I have not been able to resolve it.

Now I have another charge on my personal checking account for $22.71 that says:
the same exact thing.

Has anyone been able to figure out how to recover any of their money?

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3 Michael March 2, 2012 at 9:37 pm

WE FOUND THAT Xavier Roy AND HIS SON Charles HAVE THEIR OFFICES IN CANOGA PARK, CA. PHONE NUMBER IS 818-3232602. ADDRESS 22148 SHERMAN WAY, SUITE 211. PASS IN INFORMATION ON AS WE NEED TO MAKE THESE PEOPLE PAY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO ALL OF US. WE HAVE REPORTED THEM TO THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL. EVERYONE NEED TO REPORT THEM TO THEIR LOCAL STATE ATTORNEYS OFFICE. THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SHUT DOWN AND PUT IN JAIL.

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4 susan taylor June 4, 2011 at 3:34 pm

they got me for 264.96. all i did was open there e-mail and look at the site. i have never ordered anything from them. i’ve only ordered 2 things off the net in my life. i filed a complaint with my bank. this is either a crooked company, or they have crooked employees.

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5 Jodi April 22, 2011 at 6:02 am

omg. SCI*SEPHORA.COM just got me for $57.89. I recieved an alert on my cell and Im like what? I havent used my card. Contacted bank and theysaid it is still in pending status; I can dispute after its paid. I have no clue what this is until I copied and pasted on search. I assure u I have ordered no beauty supplies as I am a hairstylist with my own product. This is bullshit.

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6 ladyPurple December 10, 2010 at 9:26 am

Could search engines work together and close all websites running by Oscar Duris to prevent him fooling more people in the future? And also, he might have other connections and can run different illegal activities on the net, so it is good if people out there would warned us from visiting sites owned by Oscar Duris whether on his name or others name.

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7 Harold Reginald Smith December 8, 2010 at 1:18 pm

Hi, could you please confirm if this email sent to me is legitimate. Many thanks. Harold Reginald Smith.
Dear PayPal account holder,
PayPal is constantly working to ensure security by regularly screening the accounts in our system. We have recently determined that different computers have tried logging into your PayPal account,and multiple password failures were present before the logons.
Until we can collect secure information, your access to sensitive account features will be limited. We would like to restore your access as soon as possible, and we apologize for the inconvenience.
Download and fill out the form to resolve the problem and then log into your account.

Thanks ,
PayPal

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8 billprocessor October 28, 2010 at 10:55 pm

here is a big warning guys!!!! Look at this, this Oskar Duris is in big trouble:

http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2010/83/2010_17783.asp

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9 Jana November 14, 2010 at 8:44 pm

That is very nice. And how exactly will this help me to get my money back???

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10 Michael March 2, 2012 at 9:41 pm

IT IS NOT OSKAR DURIS THAT IS THE PROBLEM. IT IS XAVIER ROY AND HIS SON CHARLES. WE FOUND THAT Xavier Roy AND HIS SON Charles HAVE THEIR OFFICES IN CANOGA PARK, CA. PHONE NUMBER IS 818-3232602. ADDRESS 22148 SHERMAN WAY, SUITE 211. PASS IN INFORMATION ON AS WE NEED TO MAKE THESE PEOPLE PAY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO ALL OF US. WE HAVE REPORTED THEM TO THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL. EVERYONE NEED TO REPORT THEM TO THEIR LOCAL STATE ATTORNEYS OFFICE. THIS PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SHUT DOWN AND PUT IN JAIL.

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11 billprocessor October 28, 2010 at 7:34 pm

paypay scam is now continuing with payelectro.com which is the same site and same owner Oskar Duris!!!! BE AWARE!

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12 Paypal October 26, 2010 at 9:09 pm

PayPal took over paypay.com domain and shut down the website.
They know how to take care of customers: http://www.paypalsucks.com

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13 Andé from Portugal October 8, 2010 at 11:27 am

I also send money to my new account and the money never got there. They also don’t answer my e-mails!!

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14 Alias September 30, 2010 at 10:52 pm

Who cares???
Looks like a problem between 2 guys why we should care…
Everyone is investigated by FBI, CIA, KGB and my grandma is going to investigate all this too, so watch out!!! She is a Mongolian spy…

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15 dawolves@yahoo.com August 20, 2010 at 3:36 pm

Paypal is a ripoff. Don’t use them!!!!!!!!!!! Didn’t pay $200.00 owed to us. 1 st transaction. Fees are outragous. We sold other peoples products, paid them, but paypal never paid us.

What a scam!!!!

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16 deb July 1, 2010 at 3:09 pm

I just received a phishing email that looks like it comes from Paypal, but if you look closely, the email that it came from is service@paypay.com. The scary thing is that they are using the name on my Paypal account and the correct email. I am sending a copy to Paypal because I think their people need to be notified of this scam.

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17 Chris April 26, 2010 at 11:12 pm

I work for a company that is trying to reclaim a substantial security deposit held by PayPay last year as well. The US company based in New York (PayPayinc.com) found our account, but says it is PayPay (paypay.com?) that owes us the money. They confirm that they used to be the same company, but would not provide any details about the split up or prove that they do not owe the money. I will continue to post information as I find it.

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18 thomas March 5, 2010 at 8:13 pm

holy crap, what’s with the crazy mudslinging back and forth in the comments? if paypay is still (or ever has been) a legitimate company, they seriously need to clean up their act. based on the article, comments, and my personal experience though, i would stay far away from them.

companies should take note from president obama’s mistake of getting mired down in the “common man’s” affairs when he got involved with the arrest of his friend in cambridge…and not respond to accusations on blogs or elsewhere. if you have something to say to your customers, do it through a press release or on your web site.

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19 Lubomír December 26, 2009 at 10:32 pm

I dont get credits to my bank when I withdraw my money.

There is no response from PAYPAY.com when I complain.

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20 Andrew December 16, 2009 at 1:08 am

PayPay is safe payment system with proven history since 2003.
The fraud here is Xavier Roy as this asshole create phishing website http://www.paypayinc.com on 04-Oct-09.
http://whois.domaintools.com/paypayinc.com
Obviously he sent the phishing email to fool users of PayPay system and stole their financial information.
Xavier Roy is crook be aware of this person and his phishing website!!!!

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21 Idiot March 12, 2010 at 11:54 pm

Andrew who are you… Lol.

Reading what you wrote on this blog it seems you’re not from this country which means you are from slovakia which means you work with oskar and have no idea what’s going on. People at paypay.com not paypayinc.com have been crying for their money for months, years because there is no money, everything he gets from new customers he uses to pay himself and old customer, this is called a PYRAMID SCHEME. Read the news on how WORLDCLEARING not paypayinc.com is a fraud and being investigated by the FBI.
Oh and phishing LOL, that’s because paypay and paypayinc.com had the same design for a few months. Clearly Andrew you don;t know anything

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22 PayPay scam December 2, 2009 at 7:47 am

To PayPay.com:

Are you planing to hold users’ money hostage?
Why people cannot withdraw their money?
Looks like you do. There are credible complains about this.

What legal action can one take against PayPay.com?

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23 Oskar Duris November 19, 2009 at 11:24 pm

Xavier Roy accusing us that we are responsible for activities in article
Unauthorised activity of the company Worldclearing US LLC,
which, by the way, happened when Xavier Roy was a CEO of company and his son Charles CFO! Oskar Duris was CTO and wasn’t responsible for money transfers whatsoever.
However, this wasn’t fault of PayPay or WorldClearing. One of our customers used our bank accounts on his website, which supported investing into U.A.E. Pension Fund and WorlClearing had nothing to do with this.

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24 Oskar Duris November 19, 2009 at 11:14 pm

Oskar Duris is creator and developer of PayPay since 2003, when payment system started.
PayPay was running smoothly for 6 years.
We were looking for an investor longer time and we saw opportunity in 2008, when Xavier Roy promised to take over PayPay and bring it to higher level.
But nightmare came instead – Xavier Roy!
Oskar Duris has no reason to harm PayPay in any way, because it’s his hard work for many years.
Read more details: PayPay Management Notice

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25 PayWarning October 30, 2009 at 10:03 am

PayPay.com Warning to public

Money in paypay.com accounts is not secure. Oskar Duris who controls paypay.com
is operating under false pretenses as PayPay INC. The domain name PayPay.com has
recently been hijacked by “Oskar Duris”

His orgin country Slovakia currently suspects him of running WorldClearing
(operates PayPay.com)

illegally as a pyramid scheme.

National Bank of Slovakia
http://www.nbs.sk/en/press/all-press-releases/press-releases-common/press-release/_nbs-warning-regarding-unauthorised-activity-of-the-company-worldclearing-us-llc

“Oskar Duris” is also under investigation in the United States by multiple authorities.

Whois information for PayPay.com
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/paypay.com

Oskar Duris operates World Clearing US LLC (WorldClearing.com)
Whois record for Worldclearning.com shows Oskar Duris but whois record for PayPay.com
is anonymized.

Whois record for PayPay.SK and WorldClearing.com appears to show more accurate information:

http://whois.sk-nic.sk/index.jsp?whois=paypay.sk&a=details
https://www.007names.com/Service/whois.jsp?domain=worldclearing.com

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26 PayPay October 27, 2009 at 8:15 pm

To All PayPay Customers

NOTICE OF FRAUD COMMITTED BY OSKAR DURIS.

In short, it is imperative that YOU DO NOT PROCESS any more transaction with http://www.paypay.com. It is currently operating illegally and most of you will not recover your funds.

PayPay Inc. acquired the assets of WorldClearing entities less than a year ago, therefore is the legal owner of the domain name http://www.paypay.com. Recently, it came to the attention of PayPay Inc. that Oskar Duris committed irregularities and possible criminal acts while operating the site paypay.com from 2003 to 2008. Oskar Duris used the funds from customers to pay for his personal expenses leaving a negative money balance with WorldClearing.

A month ago, following such discovery and request for explanation, Oskar Duris “hijacked” paypay.com by copying paypay.com software, database, and moved the copied software to Slovakia. PayPay Inc. filed a suit against Oskar Duris to recover all the “hijacked” domain names and filed a report with several government agencies against Oskar Duris. Oskar Duris is currently under investigation by the FBI and the IRS for his wrongdoing and possible criminal acts.

Therefore, PayPay Inc. reported the unlawful activities from Oskar Duris to all banks that had given its credit card processing abilities. After detailed investigations from each bank, they ALL concluded that http://www.paypay.com was operated by Oskar Duris illegally and stop credit cards processing to Oskar Duris while leaving such processing abilities to PayPay Inc. through its new site http://www.paypayinc.com.

PayPay Inc. is aware that Oskar Duris reported http://www.paypayinc.com as a phishing site, in his continued effort to slander PayPay Inc., while displaying a note on every PayPay account related to that. PayPay Inc. has diligently worked out with Google, Firefox, and other browsers and has resolved this false reporting from Oskar Duris.

Due to the gravity of the situation, all banks, Google, and Firefox started an investigation. All of them have decided PayPay Inc was the rightful owner of the domain name and the credit card processing accounts. All banks transferred the credit card processing accounts to http://www.paypayinc.com supporting the fact that Oskar Duris was operating fraudulently paypay.com.

Unfortunately, as Oskar Duris controls over PayPay Inc.’s staff in Slovakia and bank accounts in Eastern European countries, Oskar Duris can continue to pay his expenses using your funds. PayPay Inc. strongly advises you to withdraw all funds available on your account at http://www.paypay.com or such funds may be lost.

PayPay Inc. will not process money transmitting transactions until further notice. PayPay Inc. will continue to allow merchants to process credit card payments through http://www.paypayinc.com and will honor money withdrawal from approved credit card merchants only.

Please do not hesitate to contact PayPay Inc. if you have any further questions or if you need any assistance to substantiate the content of this email.

Sincerely,
Xavier Roy

Chairman & CEO

About Us

PayPay Inc.
http://www.paypayinc.com
US Tel: (917) 338-6359
Week days from 9 p.m. to 6 p.m. PST

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27 Nate October 9, 2009 at 7:19 pm

My god you idiot you’re talking about PAYPAL not PAYPAY.

the least you could do is edit the article to say paypal

How could you confuse the sites, one is blue the other is green and black.

Freedom of posts should be restricted to people like you Lol

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28 Ethan October 11, 2009 at 1:09 am

Mouth-breathing criminals should try and be a little bit more creative with their comments. The effort makes me smile, though :)

Run along now.

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29 Fred July 26, 2009 at 12:13 am

I received a Phishing email yesterday from the BS website paypay. They disguised themselves as paypal. PAYPAL is a very good and legitimate site to use (I have used it for years without concern) Paypay however is a scam. DO NOT CLICK ON ANY PAYPAY ITEMS AT ALL!

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30 Vivianne Townes July 4, 2009 at 12:09 am

We recently signed up for a merchant account with PayPay and after verifying, we tried one transaction. funds were sent to us and we transferred to our verified bank account. We got an email from merchant support less than 24 hours later advising they declined our website and since then (48 hourss and counting) have been unable to access our PayPay account and the transferred funds have not shown up in our bank account……we are filing a formal complaint and request for investigation

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31 Jennifer May 20, 2009 at 12:43 pm

He is saying PAYPAY NOT PAYPAL… can you people read?

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32 Ethan May 22, 2009 at 1:13 am

Sadly, Jennifer, it would appear to not be the case. Actually, it’s people spamming the comments because they’re upset that the third result in Google for PayPay is about possible fraud.

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33 John February 3, 2009 at 8:31 pm

I have been using PayPay for a few years now and never had a problem. I believe the incident you are refering to is either bad luck or a coincidence as I’ve been using PayPay to pay commissions to hundreds of my users and we never had any issues.

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34 Sarah November 6, 2008 at 7:03 pm

Hi Ethan and thanks for the heads-up. Question: were your cards approved, ie when you entered the card info, did it say the authorization was declined? Because that’s what happened with my CC info (three cards, none accepted) and, if they really are frauds, it may have saved me from a nasty surprise. However, I am now scared that they just said “CC authorization failed” and then tried to use my cards. So, did it say your card was authorized or not? thanks so much. sarah

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35 Ethan August 27, 2008 at 9:06 pm

@Jami

Thanks for the comment, Jami. However, this article is about PayPay and it seems you have confused it with PayPal (another broken and corrupt system, but, alas, not the subject of this post).

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36 Jami August 27, 2008 at 6:21 pm

Did you respond to an email to verify? I have used paypal for MANY transactions and have never had a problem. You need to be sure that you go direct to their site and never click on a link in an email. I receive many ‘fishing’ emails trying to get my information. I always forward them to spoof@paypal.com and get a quick response from them verifying that the email is indeed a fishing email.

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